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Nate, IMHO Antonio Turiel should be considered a national treasure in Spain!! I can see why you call him a polymath. The breadth of his scientific knowledge + his ability to see how the information he’s conversant in + his foresight in seeing the importance of adults truly taking seriously their citizenship role in the difficult years to come is ASTOUNDING!!

Needless to say your podcasts are emphasizing many of the same themes and I hope you will do whatever you can to share this particular podcast with as many folks as possible because it cogently presents the role of the oceans in climate change (which you so clearly point out is one of the many perspectives that the IPCC has neglected) and it gives us insight into the differences in what the US, Europe, and many other countries of the world are facing as we meet the climate change challenges.

Thanks for suggesting close captioning. It made a huge difference in my confidence in my ability to understand everything he was saying👏🏻👏🏻

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