The Great Simplification #96 with David Holmgren
I’d like to add a small contribution which is the difference between design and evolve and the interaction between the two. Design requires an intervention. You make something that was not there. When the environment is not supportive of that design, it requires a permanent intervention which costs a lot of energy. For example, you can have an ice rink in the dessert. It will require a permanent intervention to keep it there. Nature evolves, it is not designed or made. What evolves in nature can only evolve (emerge) because all influences present (seen and unseen) evolve into what is appearing. As long as the underlying influences are present, what has emerged, emerges continuously. Once underlying influences somehow disappear, what has evolved on top of that disappears. Because the supportive environment has disappeared. Underlying influences are stacked and are connected in patterns. The patterns can be more or less resilient. Our human designs intervene with what would naturally evolve and emerge. All human interventions have unintended side effects, because we do not know and cannot know all underlying patterns. When human designs destroy underlying patterns, what once emerged can no longer emerge.
Wonderful episode Nate! Enjoyed every word! Thanks, S